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14-102296CITY Of NdAra;ral W4 Mr. Landon Beyler Beyler Consulting LLC ...... ...... FWAR - R Re: File #14-102296-00-PC, PREAPPLICATION CONFERENCE SUMMARY XU Short Plat; 1909 SW 356ffi Street, Federal Way CITY HALL 33325 8th Avenue South I - Wa,,) WA 98003-6325 (253) 835-7000 www.cityoffederalway.com FILE Thank you for participatingi the preapplication conference with the City of Federal Way's Development Review Committee (DRC) held June 19, 2014. We hope that the information discussed at that meeting was helpful in understanding t I lie general requirements for your project as submitted. This letW summarizes comments giYen to vou at the, meeting by the members of the DRC. The members who reviewed your project and provided comments M'du& Staff from the city's Planning and" Divisions and Public Works Department, and representatives from Lakehaven Utility District and South King Fire and Rescue. Some sections of the.F6deral Way Revis6d Code (FWRC) and relevant information handouts are enclosed with this letter. Please be advised,.this letter does not represent all applicable codes. In preparing 'Your formal application,* please refer to the complete FWRC and other relevant codes for all additional requirements that may apply to your project. as nam a Iwo W-I I AU represenmT377as YisEeC1 Dr•C _1 A 0 appt 0a 'lot a!i 11 and permitting process can be referred to your key contact. PROJECT DESCRIPTION The applicant proposes development of a six lot short subdivision on a 1.58 acre site. The property is zoned Residential Single -Family (RS) 9.6. MAJOR ISSUES Outlined below is ii suinmq�ry of the major issues of your project based on die plans and information SUbMiLtCd for preapplication review, These issues can change clue to modifications and revisions in the plans. These major issues only represent cone-nents that the DRC consider most significant to your project and do not include the majority of the comments provided. The major issues section is only provided as a means to highlight critical requirements or issues. Please be sure to read the entire department comments made in the next section of this letter. T AIr. Landon Beyler Page 2 of 12 July 2, 2014 301mm�� None 11 Pik raz, ent Services Division The project srequirements set forth in the city -adopted 2009 ia. meet the storm eater management King Couqy Surf ace Water Design Manual (KCSWDIV) and city addendum to the manual. 1. A Transportation Concurrency permit is required per FWRC Chapter 19.90. 2. A Traffic Impact Fee (TIF) payment is required per F,VRC 19.91. 3. Construct street frontage improvements and dedicate right-of-way along the property frontage on SW 3560, Street and 20th Avenue SW (F%,VRC 19.135.040). 4. Revise current proposal to meet access management standards (F�VRC 19.135.280). Zmmmamw= • Lakehaven Utility District None • South Fing Fire and Rescue ILI Outlined below are the comments made by the representatives of each department present at the preapplication conference. Each section should be read thoroughly. If you have questions, please contact the representative listed for that section. Sbort Plat Process — Pursuant to F,,VRC 18.30.010, short plat applications are administratively processed through the Department of Community Development. The administrative review process requires tha ffie Director of Community Development issue a decision on the short subdivision request and confirl conformance with RVRC 18.30.110(2). public notice of the complete short plat proposal is required p required unless -,in appeal is filed. A master land use application and short plat handout are enclosed; relevant code sections are available at the city's website at www.cltyoffederalway.com. I 2. State Environmenla/Polig,-Ict (SEPA) —Short plat applications are typically exempt from the requirements of SEPA review. FL #14-102296-00-11C D., ID 65709 -k J. fr. Landon Beyler Page 3 of 12 July 2, 2014 3. Fees —As development fees change annually, please contact the Permlit Center at 253-835-2607, or perrnitcenter@cityoffederalway.com, for an updated fee list prior to submitting your application. Additional utility fees, school impact fees, concurrency, and engineering plan review fees apply. 4. LotSi.Ze—The zoning for the subject site is RS-9.6. Minimum lot size for each lot is 9,600 square feet. As dep�ted, proposed lots 1, 2, and 3 meet or cxceed the Midinium lot sizeTeqpirgment. With regard to proposed lbu45, and 6, please consider the 6ollowmg definition of 116t Atee, 6bru FWRC 190, 120: a. "Lotamnicans the rniniftlum lot area per dwelling vok based on the underlying zone. For s4ie-01* lots, the Area of a vehicular access; tase�ment, Private trocit An pole, or access panhandle shall not be credited in calculation of minimum lot area.' The lot area for p"os6d lots 4, 5, And 6 may ti0tinclude the proposed amess easement area. Please Y - r -le ILLa=&L 1 5, and fi "Ce. LLJ 91 QroDosed lots 4 5. Design Griteria— Short plats are subject to the subdivision design criteria of FV,7RC 18.55-020. 6. Setbacks— -costing and future residences must conform to the following structural setback requirements of FWRC 19.200.010, "Detached Dwelling Units": front yard —twenty feet; side yard —five feet; and rear yard —five feet. For proposed lots 4, 5, and 6 the front yard setback requirement shall apply and shall be measured from the access easement for each lot. 7. iViscellaneousSit qle-Fami!yResidentialRegiflations— a. Maximum height of structures-30 feet above average building elevation. b. Maximum lot coverage-60 percent. c. Required parking spaces —two per dwelling unit. d. Driveway and/or parking pad may not be closer than five feet to any side property line (unless shared access). S. Open Space — AJI residential subdivisions are required to provide open space in the amount of 15 percent ofthe gross land area of the subdivision site per FNVRC 18-55.060(2). All or some of the open space requirement may be satisfied by a fee-in-tieu payment at the discretion . of the parks director after consideration of the city's overall park plan, quality, location, and service area of the open space that would otherwise be provided with the project. Open space fees shall be paid prior to recording the short plat, unless the applicant chooses to defer the payment via a covenant recorded against each newly created lot. If the applicant chooses to provide onsite open space, it shall be provided in its own tract and include a combination of the following types: Open Space Category % of Gross Land Area Usable 10% nuninuirn Conservation No maxi-inum or nliniml-un Buffer 2% ma-amurn Constrained 2% maximum DOC 11) 6709 1 du ", I I- I 02296-00-11C M 2 r. Landon Beyler Page 4 of 12 July 2, 2014 9. Cleafinb Grading, and Tree and Ve gelation Retention — Tbe short plat is subject to die provisions of FWRC 19.120, "Clearing, Grading, and Tree and Vegetation Retention." It is recommended that RXaC 19.120 be reviewed carefully in reference to the proposed short plat. A clearing and grading plan that meets RC 19.120.020 and FWRC 19.120.040 must be submitted with die formal short plat application, if clearing and grading work is proposed. 10. Review RIVRC 19.120.120 for minimum standards for rookeries and retaining walls. The site design should minimize the need for rockeries and retaining walls and should not require rockeries or retaining walls in excess of six feet in height. 11. The plat will be subject to tree density requirements of F�VRC 19.120.130(1); note that 25 tree -units per acre are required for single-family zoned sites. In the case of the 1.58-acre site, it appears that approximately 40 tree units are required (25 1.58 = 39.5, minus any land area deducted forpublic orprivale streets). Tree unit credits are in Table 2 of FWRC 19.120.130-2. The formal application must indicate if any trees are to be removed. 12. School hlili ggafion Fees — School mitigation fees (currently $4,687.00 per single-family home) are due at the nine of building permit application for new dwelling units. This fee amount is subject to change as determined annually by the Federal Way School District. 13. Approval Duration — Short plat preliminary approval expires five years from the date of approval. Engineering plans must be approved, improvements constructed, and the short plat must be recorded rio wi -�n the five year time pe i d. No less than 60 days prior to the lapse of approval, the applicant may request a two-year time extension for the short plat approval. 14. Recording — The city will record the short plat with the King County Division of Records and Elections subsequent to Public Works Department approval of submitted as -built plans. Prior to recording the short plat, all surveying and monumentation must be complete. In addition, all other required improvements must be substantially completed as determined by the departments of Community Development and Public Works. T)- "I'll T ' I 11711BIFY111 —on. =7535--27TV,- kevin.peterson@cityoffederalway.com) IVMOROJMM�� �,, 13iri 7W _7417K -FVj47117_3—t=rTF" CCT Water Desi gn Manual (1<-CSWDM) and the City of Federal Way Addendum to the 2009 KCSWDM. This project meets the requirements for a Full Drainage Review. At the time of preliminary short plat subrMittal, a preliminary Technical Information Report (TIR), addressing the relevance of the project to the eight core and five special requirements of the KCSWDM will be required. A Level 1 downstream analysis shall also be provided in the preliminary TIR. The city has 1" = 100', five-foot contour planimetric maps that may be used for basin analysis. Fd­k14-102296-00-11(: D., I 1) 65109 Mr. Landon Beyler Page 5 of 12 July 2, 2014 2. The project lies within a Conservation Flow Control Area; thus, the applicant must design the flow control facility to meet these performance criteria. The project also lies within an Enhanced Basic Water Quality Area. Water quality treatment shall be designed to meet the treatment criteria of the Enhanced Basic Water Quality Menu. 3. Flow Control Best Management Practices for the individual single-family lots may be addressed with the short plat storm water design, or may be deferred until submittal of building permits. 4. If infiltration is proposed, soil logs prepared by a licensed geotechnical engineer or septic designer must be provided to verify infiltration suitability. 5. Detention and water quality facilities for short plats must be above ground (i.e. open pond). Underground facilities are allowed only with approval from the City of Federal Way Stormwater Management Division. 6. Show the proposed location and dimensions of the detention and water quality facilities on the preliminary plans, as -,veil as any associated casements and/or, tract lines. 7. If more than one acre will be disturbed during construction, a National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (N-PDES) permit may be required. Information regarding this permit can be obtained from the Washington State Department of Ecology at http://Nvxv�v.ecy.-,v-,i,gov/programs/sea/pic/itidex.litnil, of by calling 360-407-6437. Right -of -Way Improvements 1. See the Traffic Division comments from Senior Traffic Engineer Erik Preston for traffic related items. 1 If dedication of additional right-of-way is required, the dedication shall be conveyed to the city through a statutory warranty deed. The dedicated area must have clear title prior to recording. 3. Ail stormwater treatment and detention requirements outlined above will be applied to new impervious area within the public right-of-way. 4. FWRC 11.05.110 requires that overhead utility lines be relocated underground if over 500 feet, or three spans are affected by a project. This condition m4y apply to the existing overhead lines on 20,h Avenue SW (a full topographic survey and preliminary design of the frontage impro-vements will be need to make the final determination). 5. F'VVRC 19.135.280 requires that driveways serving residential uses may not be located closer than 25 feet to any street intersection. Lots and intersections within new subdivisions or short plats must be designed to meet this standard. Engineering (EN) Permit Issues 1. Engineered plans are required for clearing, grading, road cqnstrucfiop� and u 6-litv work. Plans i'llust be reviewed and approved by the city. Engineering review fees are S8200 ibr the 6nt 12 hours ofrev; ew, and $68.50 per hour foradditional review time. A final TIR shall be prepared for the project and submitted with the engineering plans. Both the TIR and the plans will require the signature/ seal of a professional engineer registered/licensed in the State of Washington. D- I D 6i709 Fflft 4-102296-00-11C Mr. Landon Beyler Page 6 of 12 July 2, 2014 2. In addition to engineering approval, short plats and subdivisions are required to obtain a separate permit for any grading that will occur on the building -pad area of the lots. Details and fees may be obtained from the Federal Way Building Division. 3. TheFederal Way Development Standards Manual (including standard detail drawings, standard notes, arri, engineering checklists) is available on the city's website at vrvw.cityoffederalway.com, to assist the applicant's engineer in preparing the plans and TIR. 5. Bonding is required for all street improvements and temporary erosion and sediment control measures associated with the project. The bond amount shall be 120 percent of the estimated costs of the improvements. An administrative fee deposit will need to accompany the bond to cover any possible legal fees in the event the bond must be called. Upon completion of the installation of the improvements, and 5nal approval of the Public Works Inspector, the bond lxrill be reduced to 30 percent of the original amount and held for a two-year maintenance period. 6. The developer will be responsible for the maintenance of all storm drainage facilities (including the detention and water quality facilities) and street systems during the two-year maintenance period. Durint that time, the Public Works Inspector will make periodic visits to the site to ensure the developer's compliance with die maintenance requirements. Upon satisfactory completion of the two-year mwntenance period, the remainder of the bond will be released. Maintenance for public roads and subdivision drainage facilities then become die responsibility of the city. Maintenance for private roads and drainage facilities, including short plats, remain the responsibility of the individual property owners. 7. When topographic survey information is shown on the plans, the vertical datum block shall include the phrase "DATUM: N.G.V.D.-29" or "DATUM: K.C.A.S.," on all sheets where vertical elevations are noted. 8. Drawings submitted for plan review shall be printed on 24 x 36 or 22 x 34 paper. All final approved drawings shall be dtafted/plotted on 24" x 36" or 22" x 34" mylar sheet with permanent black ink. Site plans shall be drawn ata scale of 1" = 20', or larger. Architectural scales are not permitted on engineering plans. 9. Provide cut and fill quantities on the clearing and grading plan. Erosion control measures, per Appendix D, 2009 KCSvVDM, must be shown on the engineering plans. 1. Based on the submitted materials for five additional single-family lots, the Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE) Trip Generation - StIl Edition, land use code 210 (Single -Family Detached Housing), the proposed proj I ect is estimated to !�encrate approximately five new weekday PM peak hour trips. Alternatively, the applicant may submit a site specific trip generation study for the proposed development. ;k 11-1- 102296-00-IRC 0- 1 D 65709 A 14r. Landon Beyler Page 7 of 12 July 2, 2014 2. A concurrency pen -nit is required for this development pro)ect. The PW Traffic "�Me��e h6l� that 1 tal tnAusomtAtion ai'lalys anct concuTTETTLy 77-ti-gaiLTYL MU-j — ­1 f 1. the six -year Transportation Improvement Plan (TIP). The estimated fee for the concurrency pernut application is $344.50 (1 - 10 Trips). This fee is an estimate and based on the materials submitted for the preapplication meeting. The concurrency applicant fee must be paid in full at the time the concurrency permit application is submitted with the land use application. The fee may change based on the new weekday PM peak hour trips as identified in the concurrency trip generation. The applicant has the option of having an independent traffic engineer prepare the concurrency analysis consistent with city procedures; however, the fee remains the same. ResidentialLand D4�ons — Based on the submitted materials for five new single family lots, the estimate traffic impact fee is $16,026.49. The actual fee will be calculated and paid at the time of plat recording. buildiii,*perrnit issuance; or to later than closing of the sale of the single family home. If this option is selected, a covenant prepared by the city to enforce payment of the deferred fees will be recorded at the applicant's expense on each lot at the time of plat recording for residential land divisions. Street Frontage Improvements (FWRC 19.135) 1. "I'he applicant/ owner would be expected to construct street improvements consistent with the planned roadway cross -sections as shown in Map 111-6 of the Fedend Way Camjvehensive Pla)i (F%,(,P) and Capital Improvement Program (CIP) shown as Table 111-19 (FWRC 19.135.040). Based on the materials submitted, staff conducted a litnited analysis to determine I the required street improvements. The applicant would be expected to construct improvements on the following streets to the city's planned roadway cross -sections: SW 35611, Street is a Principal Arterial planned as a Type "C" street, consisting of a 7240 street with curb and gutter, 6-foot planter strips 1wth street trees and streetlights, and 8- foot sidewalks in a 106-foot right-of—way. Assuming a symmetrical cross section, an 11- foot right-of-way dedication and half -street improvements are required, as measured fro the street centerline. Staff would likely support a modification request. 206, Avenue SW is a Minor Collector planned as a Type "S" street, consisting of a 36-foot street with curb and gutter, 4-foot planter with street trees, and 5-foot sidewalks in a 60- foot right-of-way. Assuming a symmetrical cross section, no right-of-way dedication is requited, but half street improvements are required as measured from the street centerline. 2. The applicant may make a written request to the Public Works Director to modify, defer, or waive the required street improvements (F'\\rRC 19.135.070). Inforination about a tight-of-wa,T modification requests are sealable through the Public Works Development SezvIces Di6sion. These modification requests have a nominal review fee currently at $105.00. 1 �d' # 14 -102296-00-K, Mr. Landon Beyler Page 8 of 12 July 2, 2014 gam-amm. M=J1imJ&4M=] 1. Access management standards are based on roadway safety and capacity requirements. RX/RC 19.135.2 provides access standards for streets based on planned roadway cross -sections. Please note that access classifications are per Drawing MA in the Public Works Development Standards. I a P_@F_qE1LinWY_�1 3. Per FNVRC 19.135.280, there may be only one driveway for each 330 feet of lot frontage. Additionally, driveways must be located no closer than 150 feet to any street intersection or to any other driveway, whether on or off the subject property. 'Me city may fixtther limit or prohibit access to or from driveway onto arterial streets as deems appropriate for safety. 4. SW 356th Street is Access Class "2," which permits full access as close as 330 feet to any other street intersection or driveway, whether on or off the subject property. The current proposal does not meet access management standards and should be modified to remove the existing driveway access from Lot 1. 5. Per F�VRC 19.135.280, driveways that serve only residential use may not be located closer than 25 feet to any street intersection. Separation distances shall be measured from centerline to centerline of roadways and driveways. 1. All lots shall be accessed by a public street right-of-way (FWRC 18.55.020). In certain cases, lots may be accessed by an eq ingress/egress and utilities easement or alley subject to the ruirements established 'in th,; City of Federal Way Public Works Development Standards. Residential lots should not have access onto arterial streets. 2. Private driveway easements serving three or four lots shall be a minimum of 25 feet wide per Drawing 3- 2DD, with a minimum of 20-feet paved. The proposed easement width does not meet this standard and must be modified. 1. Driveways serving a single family dwelling unit abut ting two streets should be at least 25 feet from the beginning of the street radius. International Builelin,g � Code (113q, 2012 edition Washington State Amendments WAC 51-50* International Mechanical Code (IC), 2012 edition Washington State Amendments WAC 51-52* Uniform Plumbing Code (UPC), 2012 edition Washington State Amendments WAC 51-56 & WAC 51-57* Mic #14-102-196-00-11C D­ ID 65709 InternationalFire Code (IFC), 2012 ,Uashington State Amendments* WAC 51 -54 National Electric Code (NEC), 2014 edition Axessibili_o Code ICC /ANSI Al 17.1-2009 International Residential Code 2012 Washington State Amendments* )`VAC 51-51 IrPaybington State Energy Code 2012 WAC 5 1 -11 *Current state amendments are dated 07/01/2013. " As of January 1, 2002, the state amendments now require arc -fault interrupters for 15-20 amp branch circuits serving sleeping rooms in dwelling units (R-1's). Site -Specific Requirements The Building Division does not have any comments at this time. The information provided is based on limited plans and information. The comments provided are not intended to be a complete plan review and further comments are possible at time of building permit plan review. LAKEHAVEN UTILITY DISTRICT (Brian Asbury, DAsbury Ca 1akc_h_a_v_e_n_�_0r_9 Water • A Certificate of Water Availability for the proposed development was issued by Lakehaven on April 3, 2014. • The site has one (1) existing water service connection (SN 3174, -1/8" x 1/4" meter). • A water service connection application (form attached) subn-fitted separately to Lakehaven i is required for each new service connection to thewaterdistribution system, or any modification to kin existing water service connection (e.g., larger seivice, irriga, tion, abindonnient of existing service(s), re -activation, etc.), in accordance with standards defined in Lakehaven's current 'Fees and Charges Resolution.' • A private, water (utility) easement is indicated along the south side of the proposed short plat, for the benefit of the building supply fines for new Lots 5 and 6 across said adjacent property. • Based on the proposal submitted, preliminary estimated Lakehaven water service connection fees/ charges/ deposits (2014 schedule) will be as follows. AcLuat connection charges will be deternxined upon submittal of sciiice connection application(s) to Lakehaven. Alt Lakehaven fees, charges, and deposits are typically reviewed and adjusted (if necessary) annually, and are subject to change without notice; D- 11) 65709 Pde 9 14-1022196-M-PC Mr. Landon Beyler Page 10 of 12 July 2, 2014 ® Water Service/Meter Installations, estimated 1" size: $4,120.00 deposit (each). • Capital Facilities Charge(s)-Water, five (5) new Equivalent Residential Units (ERU): $3,492.00 per ERU. Water system capacity credits are available for this property from system capacity charges previously assessed, paid directly to Lakehaven, and/or credited to the property for 1.00 ERU. Please contact Lakehaven for further details. • Right -of -Way Permit Fee (Federal Way): $510.00 (minimum, not including potential asphalt mitigation costs, etc.). ® Other (describe): $ None anticipated. A Developer Extension Agreement will be required to construct new and/or abandon existing sanitary sewer facilities necessary for the proposed development (approximately 300+/- feet, 2" HDPE Low - Pressure Sewer, at west margin of 20th Avenue SW). Additional detail and/or design requirements can be obtained from Lakehaven by completing and submitting a separate application to Lakehaven for a Developer Extension Agreement (application attached). Lakehaven encourages owners/ developers/ applicants to apply for Lakehaven processes separately to Lakehaven, and sufficiently early in the ... phase to avoid delays in overall project development. A separate Lakehaven sewer service connection permit is required for each new connection to the sanitary sewer system, in accordance with standards defined in Lakehaveh's current 'Fees and Charges Resolutionnimum. pipe slope for gravity sewer service connections (Lots2%. Ths associated Developer Extension Agreement must achieve a point of either Substantial Completion or Acceptance, as determiined by Lakehaven prior to activating any new sewer service connection(s). Based on the proposal submitted, preliminary estimated Lakehaven water service .... fees/ charges /deposits (29014 schedule) will be as follows. Actual connection charges will be determined upon submittal of service connection application(s) to Lakehaven. All Lak-ehaven fees, charges, and deposits are typically reviewed and adjusted (if necessary) annually, and- are subject to change without notice. • Sewer Service Connection Permit Fee: $230.00 (per lot). ® Capital Facilities Charge(s)-Sewer, six (6) new ERU: $3,117.00 per ERU. • Service Agreement Charge(s), Private Pump Station Agreement: $130.00 (per lot). • County Document Recording Fees: $80.00 (per lot). • Other (describe): $ None anticipated. WMIT-M Ad comments herein are valid for one (1) year and are based on die proposal(s) submitted and Lakehaven's current regulations and policies. Any change to either the development proposal(s) or Lakehaven's regul,,itions and policies may affect the above comments accordingly. I 'k # 14- 1 02296-00-11C Doc ID 65M Landon Beyler Page 11 of 12 July 2, 2014 A Certificate of Water Availability shall be provided at the time of application indicating the fire flow available at the site. Fire apparatus access roadways shall be required for every building when Any portion of an exterior wall of the first story is located more than 150 feet from fire apparatus vehicle access. Fire apparatus access roads: 1) Shall have an unobstructed width of not less than 20 feet and an unobstructed vertical clearance of not less than 13 feet 6 inches. - W"Agnew, 3) Shall, be not less than a 32-foot inside turning radius and not less than a 40-foot outside turning radius. 4) With a dead-end in excess of 150 feet 'in lengd-i shall be provided with a cul-de-sac at the dead -upancies: IIIIIIIIIIIM 2) Without approved fire department access. CLOSING This letter reflects the infon-riation, provided at the preapplication meeting and is intended to assist you in preparing plans And materials for formal application. We hope you found the comments useful to your project. We have made every effort to identify major issues to el-nihate surprises during the CA"ty's review of the formal Application. 'rhe completion of the preapplication process in the content of this letter does not vest any future project application. Corm -rents in this letter are only valid for one year as per FINRC 19.40.070(4). As you know, this is a preliminary review only and does not take the place of the full review that will follow submission of a formal application. Comments provided in this letter are based on preapplication materials submitted. Modifications and revisions to the project as presented for this preapplication may influence and modify information regarding development requirements outlined above. In addition to this preapplication letter, Cy ier relevant codes carefuU,.,,B&.ouirements thatare found in the- -otl coI that Are not o44re�ssed in this letter are still required for your project. D­ ID 637)9 FL 4 11- 1 02296-00-11C Page 12 of 12 JuI3, 2, 2014 - I `M100 -V ITT44 PWO -W1;"RW101W'V 0"VwIrw - ",- "Ikraq - noted above. Any general questions can be directed towards the key project contact, Senior Plannerjanet Shull at 253-835-2644, or janet.shuli@cityoffederalway.com. We look forward to working with you. Sincerely, Jan t Shull, AICP, CSBA, LEED Green Associate nior Planner enc: Master Land Use Application Form Short Subdivision Application Handout Lakehaven Utilities Map Lakehaven Service Connection Application Lakehaven Developer Extension Agreement Scott Sproul, Assistant Building Official Kevin Peterson, Engineering Plans Reviewer Erik Preston, Senior Traffic Engineer Brian Asbury, Lakehaven Utility District Chris Ingham, South King Fire & Rescue Fil, #l4-H)2296-00-11(: Doc ID 65709 City of Federal Way COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE June 19, 2014 City Hall 9:00 a.m. Hylebos Room Project Name: Xu Short Plat Address: 1909 SW 350 St, Federal Wa, WA File Number: 14-102296-PC NAME DFPARTmENT / DivisioN TELEPHONE NUMBER 1. L—A tJX,\) FyL,6 _157 2. ks, 3. R L— \_4 4. 5. 5k' Fml - 7A-W 7q,' ' 25-3— 6. 7.-Ftt6 L -.c- \Jv-L I IDtv,, SA-AvT 8. AIXI.5 11"tYt4lt4 Saa7l( Kll�C,- I-',IOCIJ 2,5-13 9 C(6 7 2- 9 _ SAIAIC- �Of.A C94--L -2 10. 11. 12. tiTy OF 1;6deral VVay Mr. Landon Beyler 1111w,eyler Consulting LLC — 4 Re: File #14-102296-00-PC; PRFAPPLICATION CONFERENCE Xu; 1909 SW 3561h Street, Federal Way CITY HALL 33325 8th Avenue South Federal Way, WA 98003-6325 (253) 835-7000 www,cityoff-de ralway.com FILE The Community Development Department is in receipt of your preapplication conference request. The application has been routed to members of the Development Review Committee and the meeting has been scheduled as follows: EMM Hylebos Conference Room m ii&Tj Hall. 2nd Floor 33325 81h Avenue South Federal Way, NVA 98003 'L= 17W fWI-M .4—wwwwryLvith giou. Pleas e coordinate dkecthn -with anp pone else on would like to attend the meetingas this will be the onl� notice sent by the department. If you have any questions regarding the meeting, please contact me at jilt�-kc�d I or 253-835-2644. Sincerely, t4et Shull, AICP, CSBA, LEER Green Associate e Ili � 'Inj I nior Planner Doc..1 1) 6,64M MASTER LAND USE APPLICATIOT-1 DEPARTMENT OF CommuNiTy DEVELOPMENT SERVICES 33325 8'h Avenue South Federal Way, WA 98003-6325 253-835-2607; Fax 253-835-2609 4.1 APPLICATION No(s) -7 _Z LLAC,< 7 Date fftojectName Xu Short Plat oerty Addresovation 1909 356th Street, Federal Way Prps/L Parcel Number(s) 2 5 210 3 9 0 0 4 u'roject Description Short plat 1.58 ac property into 6 lots Type of Perndt Required Annexation Binding Site Plan Boundary Line Adjustment Comp Plan/Rezone Land Surface Modification Lot Line Elimination -4 Preapplication Conference Process I (Director's Approval) Process H (Site Plan Review) Process III (Project Approval) Process IV (Hearing Examiner's Decision) Process V (Quasi-judicial Rezone) Process VI SEPA w/Project SEPA Only Shoreline: Variance/Conditional Use Short Subdivision Subdivision Variance: Commercial/Residential Required.Wormation RS9. 6 Z*ng Designation _SF High Comprehensive Plan Designation Value of Existing Improvements TBD Value of Proposed Improvements International Building Code QBC): Occupancy Type Construction Type Name: Address: 317o� 1114" Ave- City/State: t_e�(eya Phone: 20 Fax: Email: -:1 *ignature: Agent (if different than Applicant) Name: Beyler Consulting Address: 7602 Bridgeport Way W City/State: Lakewood, WA Zip: 98499 Phone: Fax: 253-301-4157 Email: landonobe 1 c sulting.com Signature: <F < Owner Name: PVNIfwV Address: 3170q- S-Iyc� Are- SW> 7:i4r( WX City/State: Zip: Phone: _2_06 Fax: Email: -SN vvT I L, -_ Bulletin #003 — January 1, 2011 Page 1 of I k:\HandoutsWaster Land Use Application CITY OF FEDERAL WAY DEPARTMENT OF COM4UNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TRANSMITTAL PRE F4-7��' 'rl� rj-,7-��- FWWRH��� May 22, 2014 Ann Dower, Senior Engineering Plans Reviewer Scott Sproul, Assistant Building Official Brian Asbury, Lakehaven Utility District Chris Ingham, South King Fire & Rescue Rick Perez, City Traffic Engineer Janet Shull, Senior Planner June 5, 2014 - Internal June 12, 10:00 AM - with applicant ................................................. 14-102296-00-PC None xU 1909 SW 356TH ST RS 9.6 PROJECT DESCRIPTION: Proposal to divide 1.58 acre parcel into 6 single family lots. ZNMNNQ�m Preliminary Plat MAYFAIR LEON & SOPHIAXU 31704 53 RD AVE SW MATERIALS SUBMITTED: Preliminary Plat conceptual drawing 6/1 //ZU I4 Kevin Peterson From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September O8 20I44:04PKd To; 'Brandon Loucks' Subject: RE: #14-l02296-OO-P[XUShort Plat Attachments: 3-02[CStreet Section CC.pdf in which you'd be able to model the fully dispersed surfaces as forested in the post -developed condition; While some form of BMP will be requirecl fortne new nornes tUnefnera&��II construction), it appears that your dispersion trenches will be 'fighting' grade — in other words, I believe the natural slope of the property is east -west, east being the highest elevations and west being the lowest, and therefore the backyard dispersion trenches may not likely be a viable solution anyway; At this point, I don't see how (with the current number of lots and including the street frontage improvement requirements), that the project can get out of providing a flow control facility. I can offer this in the way of a little bit ot help (maybe, you'll have to calc tne numDerS TO see): n - - TTIMPM41111' of 20th (as shown on your current layout), then the access road to lots 5 and 6 could be reduced to our 2-lot standard, which is a 16-foot wide pavement section in a 20-foot easement (see attached). This MAY get you below the 5,000 SF PGIS threshold, which of course could eliminate the need for a water quality treatment facility. 611111=11 IN Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ufFederal Way 33S25J~'Ave S Federal Way, WAy8003 From: Brandon Loucks [mailto:brandon@beylerconsulting.com] To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks again Kevin for meeting with me this morning. After looking at this site a bit more today, it is quite clear the code is working against us on this one. I cannot wrap my mind around building a detention pond with dead storage and a 100 foot long swale for 5 lots. This would include lots of pipe crossing lots. Not to mention what would probably be a pretty unsightly pond after a while. it's just not ideal at all. | work onlarge single family lots inKing County, short plats, and large plats. The unfortunate thing is, no matter the size nfthe project, the flow control thresholds are all the same. | was doing the math, even 3lots would require anabove ground pond. 1) So what if we do this. Cut it down to 5 lots to stay under the 5,000 sf PGIS. Then manage everything onsite. I have attached a sketch showing this. it would include a dispersion trench in the back of each lot for rooftop runoff with a 25'flow path, and sheet flow dispersion for the driveway with a 10'vegetative flow path (or pervious concrete). Everything would be managed by onsite BMPs. If this would pencil out, can we call it gooii with stormwater mitigation? 2\ Then how about this, vvekeep it6lots. This does exceed 5,0OUsfofPGIS,However the soils report does state, the existing soils are adequate for treatment. Bovxedopervious driveways for everything, thus taking care ufall thePG|S. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with e dispersion trench. There would possibly not be enough area for dispersion on LotS. So could end up with 5 lots anyways. if this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 1S 201411:28AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or 8:30 on Tuesday? From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Friday, August 15, 20149:36AK8 To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat I'm pretty open both days (except 10-11 on Tuesday). Let me know which day/time you'd like to stop by and I'll block out some time to meet. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City of Federal Way 33325 8th Ave S Federal Way, WA 98003 (253) 835-2734 --------- From: Brandon Loucks [m ndon oilto-brabe lerc�onsultln com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:59 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Hi Kevin, Back in July we had a preapplication conference for this 6 lot short plat. I was wondering if you had a few minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. It is proving to be a bit difficult to apply the drainage manual. I wanted to run through some options with you. Let me know, thank you. Brandon Loucks, P.E. Beyler Consulting, LLC phone: 253-304-4157 direct 253-341-4162 i"igk 7602 Bddy_,-ev-ortVVaY W Ste 3D, Lakewood WA 98499' 3 Li Kevin Peterson From" . Brandon Loucks <brandon@beylerconsulting.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:57 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Attachments: 14114-Xu 1909 SW 356th St SP 2014.07.09- Prelim i nary Plan.pdf Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Flagged Thanks again Kevin for meeting with me this morning. After looking at this site a bit more today, it is quite clear the code is working against us on this one. I cannot wrap my mind around building a detention pond with dead storage and a 100 foot long swale for 5 lots. This would include lots of pipe crossing lots. Not to mention what would probably be a pretty unsightly pond after a while. It's just not ideal at all. 2) Then how about this, we keep it 6 lots. This does exceed 5,000 sf of PGIS, However the soils report does state, the existing soils are adequate for treatment. So we do pervious driveways for everything, thus taking care of all the PGIS. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with a dispersion trench. There would possibly not be enough area for dispersion on Lot 5. So could end up with 5 lots anyways. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. A L BEYLER -- ,., - J ., "', From: Brandon Loucks Aw,, 4vOOO sF Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:28 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Z,ps t - 0, 14 S7 A Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or 8:30 on Tuesday? 3,()-, Brandon Loucks, P.E. f, t,, n rT c- f Beyler Consulting, LLC From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Friday, August 1S,2O149:3GAW4 To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-1OJ3B6-OO-PC XUShort Plat I'm pretty open both days (except 20-1lonTuesday)'Let me know which day/time you'd like to stop byand I'll block out some time to meet. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 33325gmAve S Federal Way, VVA98003 -_ From: Brandon BranUo Loucks Sent: Friday, August Ib,2W14V:59*n To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Hi Kevin, Back inJuly uvehad epreapp|icationconference for this 6lot short plat. | was wondering ifyou had afew minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. Itisprovngto be a bit difficult to apply the drainage manual. I wanted to run through some options with you. Let me know, thank you. Brandon Loucks, P.E. phone: 253-3014167 direct: 253-341-4162 2 SITE AREA GROSS AREA 66,279 SF ROW DEDICATION 1,486 SF ACCESS EASEMENT 7,095 SF NET AREA _ 51,959-9F (I —32AC) REQUIRED TREE UNITS / ACRE 1.32 - 25 = 33 TREE UNITS PROVIDED TREE UNITS /ACRE TREES TO BE RETAINED 23 TREE UNITS TREES TO BE PLANTED 10 TREE UNITS BASIS OF BEARINGS ASSUMED: FOUND MONUMENTS IN SW 356TH ST FROM 21ST AVE SW TO I STH AVE SW 15 SOUTH 07-23'30- EAST .............. ...... VERTICAL DATUM NAD 1983191 PER KING COUNTY MONUMENT 8817: CONCRETE MONUMENT WITH NAIL SET 0.78'BELOW GRADE, IN A STANDARD WSDOT MONUMENT CASE LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION OF21STAVE SE AND SE 356TH ST. ELEVATION = 400,9572 A PORTION OF THE NE 1/4 OF SECTION 25, TOWNSHIP 21 N., RANGE 03 a RT PLAT PRELIMINARY SHORT PLAT PARCEL #2521039004 EXISTING OVERHEAD--- U77=70 BE RELOCATED UNDERGROUND COMMENCING 200 FEET SOUTH, 330 FEET EAST OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF GOVERNMENT LOT NO 2, THENCE -,;OlJTH 180 FEET; THENCE EAST 330 FEET; THENCE NORTH OF THE NORTHEA5 i QUAR ILK Ur DEt, t1— A, , -- 21 NORTH, RANGE 3 EAST, W. K, INKING COUNTY, WASHINGTON, AND COMMENCING 30 FEET SOUTH, 330 FEET EAST OF THE NROTHWEST CORNER OF GOVERNMENT LOT NO 2; THENCE SOUTH 170 FEET; THENCE EAST 165 FEET�' THENCE NORTH 170 FEET' THENCE WEST 165 FEET TO POINT OF BEGINNING, EXCEPT THE WEST 30 FEET OF ROAD, ALL LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF THE SOUTHEAST QUARTER OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 25, TOWNSHIP 21 NORTH, RANGE 3 EAST, W. M., IN KING COUNTY, WASHINGTON- DESCRIP71ON ABOVE PER SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED UNDER RECORDING NUMBER 20131010001601 20TH AVENUESW ASPHALTIC PAVEMENT 6WRIGHT-OF-WAY 10, 4' E -.CU3' Ex Ex al "L PARKING ASPHALT =NO AUD PARKING KING A— I ROAD 4VIRRIAy GRIND STRIP {NORTHBOUND) (SOeFul WyeKU OVERLAYNEW CURB . G_ 2.1 cur/FILL (TYPICAL) 3, IMAJ CL 112, ?P5 6`I—m pg 2" CSTC I 14,000 Houses, STkEEF---­-- lmPerobus ZOW) TIghtline #4,3500 impervious 4e,713 30 is 0 30 60 SCALE: 1 30' EXSTRUCTURE —(TOBEREMOVED) EKSTRUCTURE (TO BE REMOVED) SHARED ACCESS DRIVE APRON 504 SF (PGJS) CONC SIDEWALK 1,429 SF TOTAL Z442 SFfO0,!F$ Aq S* CONC DRIVE/ WALK -,e66-3F(PGlS) - HOUSE FOOTPRINTS 21,000 SF TOTAL -9,S27SF(0,S8SAC) TOTAL PGIS 9,640 SF (0226 AC) Is, SF HAS BEEN ASSUMED FOR DRFvEWAY1AALK SURFACE FOR EACH -7 3,500EF HAS BEEN ASSUMED FOR HOUSE FOOTRRINTS FOR EACH LOT 1. CL 7CUT 182 CY z FLLL772 Cr N- 7I10 CY (CUT) vUMES.EIREIMINARoASHRIPRISAIML FACTOR HAS NOT PARCEL NUMBER,' 2521039004 SITE ADDRESS: 1909 356TH STREET FEDERAL WILJ AY, WA SITE AREA (ASSESSOR). 68,717 SF (1, 578 AC) CL SITE AREA (SURVEYED), 66,279 SF (1.522 AC) LU f ROW DEDICATION: 1,466 SF (0. 034 AC) 64, Q U-1 NET AREA: 793 SF (1, 487 AC) Ll ZONING, RS9�6 LL SINGLE FAMILY, HIGH DENSITY ;J ur MIN LOT SIZE, 9,600 SF NER MAX BUILDING HEIGHT,' 30' TON MAX COVERAGE: 60% PRELMINARY 711 SETBACKS: Az FRONT: 20' hpL INTERIOR; 5 El 5911 REAR: 5 FIRE ACCESS TURNAROUND " ---1-J4 MIN, LANE WIDTH OU'D e0a 20' MIN. RADII: 32 1 MIN EXTENSION: 55 FROM CENTERLINE ynrr JOB NUMBER CLIENT ENGINEER' 14-114 XU LEON YU HUA & WEN YE SHI BEYLER CONSULTING 31704 53RD AVENUE SW 7602 BRIDGEPORT WAY V4 #3D SHEETS OF 1 FEDERAL WAY, WA 98023 LAKEWOOD, WA 98499 L, 253-666-4985 TEL: 253-301-4157 ppi. 0 Kevin Peterson From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September 29,2UI42S2PM To: 'Brandon Loucks' Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat tbut it is close - if your project were 2-3 blocks further south on 20th , THEN it would discharge to the west into Tacoma... From: Brandon Loucks xcomI Sent: Monday, September29,2O142:41PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PCXU Short Plat 0openope you are right, this bagood map tohave. How convenient the break incity storm systems isatthe city boundary. Brandon Loucks, P.E. From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:26 PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Our stonnv«atersystem mapping (map attached) shows that system on356 Ih flowing west to21-"Ave SW, then north on 2 f , then eventually flows to the east and south where it enters the Hylebos wetland/strearn system. if you have something that shows otherwise, please submit that as part of your Level 1 downstream analysis. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 333258^^Ave S Federal Way, VVAgOOOS (253)835-2734 1 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:31 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks Kevin, Just for anFYI and toget itonyour radar. We will submit with a proposal for pervious asphalt to take advantage for the treatment except soils. However, during your review, I brought to attention that where the site is located, right next to the city boundary, stormwater is tightlined into the City of Tacoma and enters the Puget Sound through one of the port inlets. So stormwater is not flowing into one of Federal Way's wetlands or Lakes. What I would request during the preliminary short plat review is a decision to allow this project to follow the City of Tacoma treatment requirements which would be Basic instead of Enhanced -Basic as required by King County. Thanks for all the help on this one. From: Kevin Peterson ma iltlo-Keviln. Pete rso n@cityoffedera ]way -co m Sent: Monday, September 39,2O14 1026AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-1O2296-O0'PCXUShort Plat Short Plat title b|ock'DWGattached. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City mfFederal Way 33925Q~'Ave S Federal Way, VVA980U3 te Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:31 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat 00 I was wondering if I could get a copy of the storm plans/asbuilts in 356 1h near the project at 356 1h and 20th Av2 From: Kevin Peterson m0t6;KbVih. qo!461y���] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:01 AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat will get you out of having to provide a 'formal' water quality treatment facility for the project. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 33325Q~'Ave 8 Federal Way, VVA980O3 From: Brandon Loucks [-M-AiLit—o—*b—r—a-4d—O—nlg—b—eYl-Orc—Ons Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:42 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PCXU Short Plat Yeah it would be close with only 24 to 30 inches. It would be nice if there were a little flexibility. If we try and limit t ; - a-xmw� ere was I sJ than 5,000 sf of PGIS that was not subject to pervious asphalt, this would allow us to under the treatment threshold correct? I Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:58 PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat KHyprimary concern would bethat the existing layer ofsoils, that sound like itmeets the cation exchange capacity and the depth ot soil beneath fffe-fa—cTiffy-To-r3e Z-Teec or, Inole. i MTIVT pavement is considered could easily affect that minimum soils depth. F [ArIN0.1001HIII NIMO IMr-111101 41 WMI Kevin Peterson C-AE City of Federal Way 33325 8th Ave S Federa I Way, WA 98003 (253) 835-2734 -- ----- . . ..... . . . ..... . . ... . 11 From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:26 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat I wanted to run this by you. The geotechnical report states that the overlaying 24 to 30 inches of weathered soils should provide adequate treatment capacity based on the cation and organic content test results. This would fall under the Treatment Exception #4, Soil Treatment Exemption. What do you think about having all the PGIS hardscape be porous? This would allow water to infiltrate and take advantage of the soils beneath to utilize the soil treatment exemption. The credit given for porous surfaces would then also be applied to sizing the pond. Let me know, Thanks! NUMM Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 4:04 PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat 9,71TO• ; 11111111 !111 Ill !III !!!!!I 1 1111 1 1•1 . . ; UZ Based on the proposed design, it looks like you're providing Basic Dispersion for the roof runoff and driveways, in whic case you only get some credit in sizing a formal flow control facility, whereas if you were able to provide Full Dispersio you'd be able to model the fully dispersed surfaces as forested in the post -developed condition; I This also holds true if the access road was designed with permeable pavement (you get sizing credits only); 0 icuyk�w or at time of i construction), it appears that your dispersion trenches will be 'fighting' grade — in other words, I believe the natural slope of the property is east -west, east being the highest elevations and west being the lowest, and therefore the backyard dispersion trenches may not likely be a viable solution anyway; At this point, I don't see how (with the current number of lots and including the street frontage improvement requirements), that the project can get out of providing a flow control facility. TT of 20th (as shown on your current layout), then the access road to lots 5 and 6 could be reduced to our 2-lot standard, which is a 16-foot wide pavement section in a 20-foot easement (see attached). This MAY get you below the 5,000 SF PGIS threshold, which of course could eliminate the need for a water quality treatment facility. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 33325Q^^Ave S Federal Way, VVA90003 From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 20145:5/PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PCXU Short Plat Thanks again Kevin for meeting with me this morning. After looking at this site a bit more today, it is quite clear the code is working against us on this one. lcannotwrapmy mind around building a detention pond with dead storage and a 100 foot long swale for 5 lots. This would include lots of pipe crossing lots. Not to mention what would probably be a pretty unsightly pond after a while. It's just not ideal at all. I work on large single family lots in King County, short plats, and large plats. The unfortunate thing is, no matter the sim of the project, the flow control thresholds are all the same. I was doing the math, even 3 lots would require an above ground pond. .r--� 1] 6mwhat ifxvedothis. Cut itUuvvnto5lots tostay under the 5/OUOsfPGIS. / hen manage everything onuite. | have attached a sketch showing this. |twould include adispersion trench inthe back ofeach lot for rooftop runoff with a 25' flow path, and sheet flow dispersion for the driveway with a 10'vegetative flow path (or pervious concrete). Everything would bemanaged bvonsiteBW0Ps. |fthis would pencil out, can mecall itgood with stornovxaterrnitigadon? 2) Then how about this, xxekeep it6lots. This does exceed 5,OUOsfofP3|S~However the soils report does state, the existing soils are adequate for treatment, Souvedopervious driveways for everything, thus taking care ofall thePG|S. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with adispersion trench. There would possibly not beenough area for dispersion nnLot S' Sncould end up with 5lots anyways. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:28 AM To: Kevin Peterson Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or 8:30 on Tuesday? _ From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Friday, August 15, 20149:36AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #l4-1022S6-OO-P[XUShort Plat I'm pretty open both days (except 10-11onTuesday).Let meknow which day/time you'd like tostop by and I'll block out some time tomeet. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 333258~'Ave S Federal Way, VYA9QOQ3 (253)835-2734 From: Brandon Loucks [mAilto brandon be_ylercon ultr'ng.c ni] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:59 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Hi Kevin, Back in July we had a preapplication conference for this 6 lot short plat. I was wondering if you had a few minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. It is proving to be a bit difficult to apply the drainage manual. I wanted to run through some options with you. Let me know, thank you. Brandon r • Kevin Peterson From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September 25\20142:26PK4 To; 'Brandon Loucks' Subject: RE: #I4-IO2296-OO-PCXUShort Plat Attachments: 20I40929I14I41.pdf 'Our stormwater system mapping (map attached) shows that system on 356 th flowing west to 21st Ave SW, then north on 21-'t, then eventually flows to the east and south where it enters the Hylebos wetland/stream system. if you have something that shows otherwise, please submit that as part of your Level 1 downstream analysis. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 3332S8~'Ave 5 Federal Way, VVA9Q003 From: Brandon Loucks [nailto:bnandon@ltinozon] Sent: Monday, September 29,201411:31AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks Kevin, We will submit sometime here soon. Just for anFYI and tnget bnnyour radar. VVewill submit with aproposal for pervious asphalt 10take advantage for the treatment except soils. However, during your review, I brought to attention that where the site is located, right next to the city boundary, stormwater is tightlined into the City of Tacoma and enters the Puget Sound through one of the port inlets. So stormwater is not flowing into one of Federal Way's wetlands or Lakes. What I would request during the preliminary short plat review is a decision to allow this project to follow the City of Thanks for all the help on this one. From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September 29,2D141D:36AK8 To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 333258^^Ave S Federal Way, VVA98003 From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:31 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Hello, I was wondering if I could get a copy of the storm plans/asbuilts in 356 th near the project at 356 th and 201h Ave. Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:01 AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat If you can get to where you can claim the Surface Area Exemption (#1 on pg 1-65 of the KCSWDM), then of course that will get you out of having to provide a 'formal' water quality treatment facility for the project. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 3332S8~'Ave S PA Federal Way, WA980O Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:42 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Yeah itwould beclose with only 241o3Dinches. kwould benice ifthere were alittle flexibility. Ifxvetry and limit the amount of area that is pervious to areas that would work better than others and got it toapoint where there was less than S,UOOsfofPG|S that was not subject to pervious asphalt, this would allow us to under the treatment threshold correct? From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Tuesday, September 23,2O144:58PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat My primary concern would be that the existing layer of soils, that sound like it meets the cation exchange capacity and the organic content, are only 24-30 inches in depth, based on your geotech's description, and the Exemption requires the depth of soil beneath the facility to be 2-feet or more. Any slight bit of grading in those areas where the porous pavement isconsidered could easily affect that minimum soils depth. However, itmay still befeasible, as long as you can meet all of the criteria listed under that exemption. You may have to do additional soils samples in the areas where the PGI Surfaces are proposed so that we can be confident it will work. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City nfFederal Way 33325Q`'Ave S Federal Way, VVAg8UU2 (253)835-2734 From: Brandon Loucks [maiLto-brandon@beylerconsul—fj—nq.-C-O—nlj To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14- X0 Short Plat Thanks Kevin, l / | wanted torun this bvyou. The 8eotechnica!report states that the overlaying 24to3Oinches ofweathered soils should provide adequate treatment capacity based on the cation and organic content test results. This would fall under the Treatment Exception #4, Soil Treatment Exemption. What do you think about having all the PGIS hardscape be porous? This would allow water to infiltrate and take advantage of the soils beneath to utilize the soil treatment exemption. The credit given for porous surfaces would then also be applied to sizing the pond. Let me know, Thanks! From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 4:04 PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat I've reviewed your proposal and have afew comments: This also holds true if the access road was designed with permeable pavement (you get sizing credits only); While some form of BMP will be required for the new homes (whether as part of engineering review or at time of home construction\,itappears that your dispersion trenches will beYightino grade —inother words, | believe the natural slope ofthe property iseast-w/est, east being the highest elevations and west being the lowest, and therefore the backyard dispersion trenches may not likely be a viable solution anyway; At this point, | don't see how (with the current number oflots and including the street frontage improvement requirements), that the project can get out of providing a flow control facility. | can offer this inthe way ofalittle bit ofhelp (noavbe you'll have tocakthe numbers tosee): Iflot 4were toaccess off of2nm (as shown on your current layout), then the access road to lots 5 and 6 could be reduced to our 2-lot standard, which is a 16-foot wide pavement section in a 20-foot easement (see attached). This MAY get you below the 5,000 SF PGIS threshold, which of course could eliminate the need for a water quality treatment facility. You may even be able to eliminate the hammerhead turnaround, but you'll need to check with South King Fire on that. Sorry I can't be of more help/hope on this, but let me know if you have any other questions. Kevin Peterson City of Federal Way Federal Way, WA 98003 From: Brandon Loucks To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks again Kevin for meeting with me this morning. After looking at this site a bit more today, it is quite clear the code is working against us on this one. I cannot wrap my mind around building a detention pond with dead storage and a 100 foot long swale for 5 lots. This would include lots of pipe crossing lots. Not to mention what would probably be a pretty unsightly pond after a while. It's just not ideal at all. I work on large single family lots in &ing County, snort plats, and large piaTs. i tie Trrralru _Jtrd F-7f7F=z of the project, the flow control thresholds are all the same. I was doing the math, even 3 lots would require an above ground pond. 1) So what if we do this. Cut it down to 5 lots to stay under the 5,000 sf PGIS. Then manage everything onsite. I have attached a sketch showing this. It would include a dispersion trench in the back of each lot for rooftop runoff with a 25'flow path, and sheet flow dispersion for the driveway with a 10'vegetative flow path (or pervious concrete). Everything would be managed by onsite BMPs. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? 2) Then how about this, we keep it 6 lots. This does exceed 5,000 sf of PGIS, However the soils report does state, the existing soils are adequate for treatment. So we do pervious driveways for everything, thus taking care of all the PGIS. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with a dispersion trench. There would possibly not be enough area for dispersion on Lot 5. So could end up with 5 lots anyways. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PIDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 15, 201411:28AK4 To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #l4-1O2296-OO-PCXUShort Plat Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or 8:30 on Tuesday? Brandon Loucks, P.E. -- ' — From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Friday, August 1S 20149:36AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-1OZ296-O0'PCXUShort Plat I'm pretty open both days (except 10-11 on Tuesday). Let me know which day/time you'd like to stop by and I'll block out some time 1omeet. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 3332S0~'Ave S Federal Way, WA08UQ3 FromBrandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:59 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14-1D2296-00-PCXUShort Plat Hi Kevin, Back inJuly wehad apreapp|icabonconference for this 6lot short plat. | was wondering ifyou had afew minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. |tisproving to Let me know, thank you. Brandon Loucks, P.E. phone: 253-301-4157 direct: 253-341-4162 office: 7602 Bridgeport Way W, Ste 3D, Lakewood WA 98491-# Kevin Peterson From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Thursday, September 25'2OI48:0IAM To: 'Brandon Loucks' Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat If you can get to where you can claim the Surface Area Exemption (#1 on pg 1-65 of the KCSWDM), then of course that will get you out of having to provide a 'formal' water quality treatment facility for the project. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 33]258~'Ave S Federal Way, VVA98003 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:42 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Yeah itwould beclose with only 24to3Oinches. Itwould benice ifthere were alittle flexibility. Ifxxetry and limit the amount of area that is pervious to areas that would work better than others and got it to a point where there was less than 5,000 sf of PGIS that was not subject to pervious asphalt, this would allow us to under the treatment threshold Brandon Loucks°P.E. Bev|er ConsuVbmg,LLC From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Tuesday, September 23,2O144:5QPK4 To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14'1Q2296'OO-PCXUShort Plat My primary concern would be that the existing layer of soils, that sound like it meets the cation exchange capacity and the organic content, are only 24-30 inches in depth, based on your geotech's description, and the Exemption requires the depth of soil beneath the facility to be 2-feet or more. Any slight bit of grading in those areas where the porous pavement is considered could easily affect that minimum soils depth. However, it may still be feasible, as long as you can meet all of the criteria listed under that exemption. You may have to City of Federal Way 33325 St' Ave S Federal Way, WA 98003 From: Brandon Loucks rLnaflto:brandoh(a�bii�!6rconsUkihgjg�oM] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:26 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks Kevin, I wanted to run this by you. The geotechnical report states that the overlaying 24 to 30 inches of weathered soils should provide adequate treatment capacity based on the cation and organic content test results. This would fall under the Treatment Exception #4, Soil Treatment Exemption. What do you think about having all the PGIS hardscape be porous? This would allow water to infiltrate and take advantage of the soils beneath to utilize the soil treatment exemption. The credit given for porous surfaces would then also be applied to sizing the pond. Let me know, Thanks! Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 4:04 PM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat iiiiiji�iiii ;I Based on the proposed design, it looks like you're providing Basic Dispersion for the roof runoff and driveways, in which case you only get some credit in sizing a formal flow control facility, whereas if you were able to provide Full Dispersion, you'd be able to model the fully dispersed surfaces as forested in the post -developed condition; This also holds true if the access road was designed with permeable pavement (you get sizing credits only); While some form of BMP will be required for the new homes (whether as part of engineering review or at time of home construction), it appears that your dispersion trenches will be 'fighting' grade — in other words, I believe the natural slope ofthe property iseast+west, east being the highest elevations and west being the lowest, and therefore the ---,\ ) / �� Atthis point, | don't see how (with thccurrent number oflots and including the street frontage improvement requirements), that the project can get out of providing a flow control facility. i can OFF Tn of 21[�h (as shown on your current layout), then the access road to lots 5 and 6 could be reduced to our 2-lot standard, which is a 16-foot wide pavement section in a 20-foot easement (see attached). This MAY get you below the 5,000 SF PGIS threshold, which of course could eliminate the need for a water quality treatment facility. You may even be able to eliminate the hammerhead turnaround, but you'll need to check with South King Fire on that- KevnPeterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFederal Way 333258^'Ave S Federal Way, VVA9D003 _ From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Tuesday, August 19,2O145:57PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102298-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks again Kevin for meeting with methis morning. After looking at this site a bit more today, it is quite clear the code is working against us on this one. |cannutvvrapmny mind around building adetention pond with dead storage and alO0foot long swa|efor Slots. This would include lots of pipe crossing lots. Not to mention what would probably bee pretty unsightly pond after awhile. It's just not ideal atall. | work onlarge single family lots inKing County, short plats, and large plats. The unfortunate thing is, nomatter the size ofthe project, the flow control thresholds are all the same. | was doing the math, even 3lots would require anabove ground pond. 1) Suwhat ifxvedothis. Cut itdown to5lots tostay under the 5j]OQsfPGIS. Then manage everything onsite. | have attached asketch showing this. |1would include odispersion trench inthe back ofeach lot for rooftop runoff with a 25' flow path, and sheet flow dispersion for the driveway with a 10'vegetative flow path (or pervious concrete). Everything would bemanaged bvunsiteBK4Ps. |fthis would pencil out, can vvecall itgood with »turmm/atermitigation? 2) Then how about this, we keep it 6 lots. This does exceed 5,000 sf of PGIS, However the soils report does state, the existing • are adequate • treatment. So we do pervious • for everything, thus taking care of all the PGIS. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with a dispersion trench. There would possibly not be enough area for dispersion on Lot 5. So could end up with 5 lots anyways. if this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:28 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or 8:30 on Tuesday? From: Kevin Peterson [ma ilto: Kevin. Peterson 12cityoffe Jer2lway.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:36 AM To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat I'm pretty open both days (except 10-11 on Tuesday). Let me know which day/time you'd like to stop by and I'll block out some time to meet. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City of Federal Way 33325 8th Ave S Federal Way, WA 98003 (253) 835-2734 ........... . ........... -­ 11-1111, From: Brandon Loucks Emaafl-----m@-��� Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:59 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14402296-00-13C XU Short Plat Hi Kevin, a] Back in July we had a preapplication conference for this 6 lot short plat. I was wondering if you had a few minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. It is proving tt be a bit difficult to apply the drainage manual. I wanted to run through some options with you. Brandon Loucks, P.E. Beyler Consulting, LLC phone: 253-301-4157 direct: 253-341-4162 office: 7602 Bridgeport Way W, Ste 3D, Lakewood WA 98499 Kevin Peterson From: Kevin Peterson Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:58 PM To: 'Brandon Loucks' Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat the organic content, are only 24-30 inches in depth, based on your geotech's description, and the Exemption requires the depth of soil beneath the facility to be 2-feet or more. Any slight bit of grading in those areas where the porous pavement is considered could easily affect that minimum soils depth. However, it may still be feasible, as long as you can meet all of the criteria listed under that exemption. You may have t# do additional soils samples in the areas where the PGI Surfaces are proposed so that we can be confident it will work. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City of Federal Way 33325 8th Ave S Federal Way, WA 98003 (253) 835-2734 From: Brandon Loucks [mailto:brandon@beylerconsulting.com) Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:26 PM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks Kevin, I wanted to run this by you. The geotechnical report states that the overlaying 24 to 30 inches of weathered soils shoulit provide adequate treatment capacity based on the cation and organic content test results. This would fall under the Treatment Exception #4, Soil Treatment Exemption. What do you think about having all the PGIS hardscape be porous? This would allow water to infiltrate and take advantage of the soils beneath to utilize the soil treatment exemption. The credit given for porous surfaces would then also be applied to sizing the pond. Let me know, Thanks! From: Kevin Peterson [m i�ltoKev�in.Pete�rson �cfoffederalW�a-COMA 2q: Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 4:04 PM ) � To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat case you only get some credit in sizing a formal flow control facility, whereas if you were able to provide Full Dispersion, you'd be able to model the fully dispersed surfaces as forested in the post -developed condition; construction), it appears that your dispersion trenches will be 'fighting' grade — in other words, I believe the natural slope of the property is east -west, east being the highest elevations and west being the lowest, and therefore the backyard dispersion trenches may not likely be a viable solution anyway; At this point, I don't see how (with the current number of lots and including the street frontage improvemenl requirements), that the project can get out of providing a flow control facility. of 201h (as shown on your current layout), then the access road to lots 5 and 6 could be reduced to our 2-lot standard, which is a 16-foot wide pavement section in a 20-foot easement (see attached). This MAY get you below the 5,000 SF PGIS threshold, which of course could eliminate the need for a water quality treatment facility. Sorry I can't be of more help/hope on this, but let me know if you have any other questions. Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City ofFedera|Way 3332S8^^Ave 5 Federal Way, VVA98UO3 (253)835-2734 From: Brandon Loucks maiftbra Won beVierconsuffir— To: Kevin Peterson Subject: RE: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Thanks again Kevin for meeting with me this morning. I work on large single family lots in King County, short plats, and large plats. The unfortunate thing is, no matter the size of the project, the flow control thresholds are all the same. I was doing the math, even 3 lots would require an above ground pond. L) So what if we do this. Cut it down to 5 lots to stay under the 5,000 sf PGIS. Then manage everything onsite. I have attached a sketch showing this. it would include a dispersion trench in the back of each lot for rooftop runoff with a 25'flow path, and sheet flow dispersion for the driveway with a 10'vegetative flow path (or pervious concrete). Everything would be managed by onsite BMPs. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? C) Then how about this, we keep it 6 lots. This does exceed 5,000 sf of PGIS, However the soils report does state,= the existing soils are adequate for treatment. So we do pervious driveways for everything, thus taking care of all the PGIS. Then go with the same as in option 1 for rooftops, provide onsite dispersion for the rooftop of the lots with a dispersion trench. There would possibly not be enough area for dispersion on Lot 5. So could end up with 5 lots anyways. If this would pencil out, can we call it good with stormwater mitigation? Let me know what you think. I have attached a PDF showing what I have described. Thanks and for meeting with me. From: Brandon Loucks Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:28 AM To: Kevin Peterson Oh okay, great thanks. How about 8 or-8:30 on Tuesday? From: Kevin Peterson Lm Sent: Friday, August 1S,2OI4996AKx To: Brandon Loucks Subject: RE: #14'1UJ29G'O0-PCXUShort Plat ` Brandon, I'm pretty open both days (except 10-11 on Tuesday). Let me know which day/time you'd like to stop by and I'll block Kevin Peterson Engineering Plans Reviewer City of Federal Way 33325 8th Ave S Federal Way, WA 98003 (253) 835-2734 m _ _ From. Brandon Loucks [m ilto ®brandonbeylerconsulting, corn Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:59 AM To: Kevin Peterson Subject: #14-102296-00-PC XU Short Plat Hi Kevin, Back in July we had a preapplication conference for this 6 lot short plat. I was wondering if you had a few minutes maybe Monday or Tuesday morning I could stop by and we could discuss the stormwater for this project. It is proving to be a bit difficult to apply the drainage manual. I wanted to run through some options with you. Let me know, thank you. Brandon Loucks, Beyler Consulting, phone: 253-3014167 direct: i 4•