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LUTC MINS 09-14-2009 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2009\09-14-09-Minutes.doc City of Federal Way City Council Land Use/Transportation Committee September 14, 2009 City Hall 5:30 PM City Council Chambers MEETING SUMMARY Committee Members in Attendance: Committee Chair Kochmar and Committee Members Ferrell and Duclos. Staff Members in Attendance: Acting City Manager Brian Wilson, Director of Parks, Public Works and Emergency Management Cary Roe, Assistant City Attorney Peter Beckwith, City Traffic Engineer Rick Perez, Surface Water Manager Will Appleton, Senior Transportation Planning Engineer Sarady Long, Senior Traffic Engineer Jesse Hannahs, and Administrative Assistant II Darlene LeMaster 1. CALL TO ORDER Committee Chair Kochmar called the meeting to order at 5:30 PM. 2. PUBLIC COMMENT There was one no public comment: Diana Noble-Gulliford, 2754 SW 314th St, Federal Way – Ms. Noble-Gulliford had questions in response to Sam Pace’s recent letter regarding time extensions for short plats and plats: Will the City adopt a local stimulus plan? Do the proposed code amendments address the concerns in Mr. Pace’s letter? Mr. Fewins commented that the City is making changes to the revised code to help stimulate the City’s economy; however, there is no “stimulus plan.” 3. BUSINESS ITEMS Forward Topic Title/Description to Council A. Approval of the July 20August 3, 2009, LUTC Minutes Committee approved July 20August 3, 2009 LUTC minutes as presented. Moved: FerrellDuclos Seconded: DuclosFerrell Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 Committee Member Duclos moved that Item B, Traffic Impact Fee (TIF) be moved to the end of the agenda, shifting the other agenda items up. Moved: Duclos Seconded: Ferrell Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 N/A Land Use/Transportation Committee Page 2 September 14, 2009 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2009\09-14-09-Minutes.doc B/C. Amendments to the Federal Way Revised Doce (FWRC) Title 18 “Subdivisions” and Title 19 “Zoning and Development Code” regarding plat and land use application time extensions and related amendments.Emergency Equipment Purchase Update Deb BarkerCary Roe presented information on this item. presentation addressed agenda items B and C. There were two public comments. was no discussion or public comment. John Parr, Developer, Federal Way Village – Mr. Parr commented that as a developer, the proposed extension will be a huge benefit to developers who have been hit hard during this recession. Mr. Parr encouraged the committee to approve the recommendation. Garrett Huffman, Master Builders Association – The Master Builders Association fully endorses the proposed code and text amendments and asks the committee approve staff’s recommendation. Ms. Barker stated that a last minute text amendment was made to Section 19.15.045 in order to clarity “completeness of applications.” Ms. Barker also noted that extensions of plat and land use application time, the code amendments are meant only for active and valid plat and land use applications. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: DuclosFerrell Seconded: FerrellDuclos Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 9/0110/6/2009 OrdinanceConsent Land Use/Transportation Committee Page 3 September 14, 2009 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2009\09-14-09-Minutes.doc C. Approval to Apply for 2010-2011 Phase II Stormwater Pass-Through Grant Will Appleton presented information on this item. There was no discussion or public comment. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: Ferrell Seconded: Duclos Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 10/6/2009 Consent D. Multi-Gas Detector Purchase Using Replacement Reserves Will Appleton presented information on this item. There was no public comment. Mr. Appleton stated that the multi-gas detector will be used in locations that meet the confined space definition or in instances deemed appropriate. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: Ferrell Seconded: Duclos Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 10/6/2009 Consent E. 2009-2011 Commute Trip Reduction Implementation Agreement with WSDOT Sarady Long presented information on this item. There was no discussion or public comment. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: Duclos Seconded: Ferrell Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 10/6/2009 Consent F. Commute Trip Reduction Service Contract with King County (7/1/09 to 6/30/11) Sarady Long presented information on this item. There was no discussion or public comment. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: Ferrell Seconded: Duclos Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 10/6/2009 Consent G. Sherwood Forest 2009 NTS Project (27th Ave SW; SW 344 to SW 351st) Rick Perez presented information on this item. There were three public comments: Gary Grant, 2621 SW 348th Place, Federal Way – Mr. Grant expressed concern that, in his opinion, speed humps may not be the solution to this problem. In addition to the speeding issues, cars are parking along the street and on the shoulder, forcing pedestrians to have to use the street. Mr. Grant thinks that heightened police presence and quicker response to cars parking in the right of way would be beneficial. 27th Ave SW is not signed with a stop or yield sign. Mr. Grant feels this encourages speeding. If speed humps are truly warranted, Mr. Grant requests that the lower, less restrictive speed tables be installed. Chad McGill, 34502 27th Ave SW, Federal Way – Mr. McGill is advocating for the largest speed humps available for this project in order to drop speeds along 10/6/2009 Consent Land Use/Transportation Committee Page 4 September 14, 2009 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2009\09-14-09-Minutes.doc 27th Ave SW. Mr. McGill is frustrated at observing police only issue warnings to speeders along this street and feels that tickets would be more effective. Zach Thomas, 34400 27th Ave SW, Federal Way – Mr. Thomas agrees with an aggressive approach to speed humps. He has personally experienced damage to his personal property from speeders losing control of their vehicles. Committee Member Ferrell asked for clarification on speed humps versus speed tables. Mr. Perez explained that the recommended speed for a speed tables is 20 mph, whereas, the recommended speed for a speed hump is 15 mph. The reason being is that a speed hump is slightly taller and narrower. Mr. Perez also stated that reports have shown that once installed, the 85th percentile speed over a speed hump is approximately 27 mph whereas the 85th percentile speed over a speed table is approximately 27-29 mph. One could argue that both speed tables and speed humps are equally effective. Mr. Perez went though the scoring criteria and how this location qualified for the NTS program. ICM Wilson will look into coordinating with law enforcement to make sure there is a police presence in this area to deal with parking in the right of way and vandalism to property. Chair Kochmar asked why stop signs or yield signs have not been implemented. Mr. Perez responded that at low volume intersections (27th Ave SW at SW 344th St), signage has not proven to be as effective. At unsigned intersections, the “rules of the road” still apply. Committee forwarded Option #1 as amended to also include exploring strategic stop signs. Moved: Ferrell Seconded: Duclos Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 H. Lake Grove 2009 NTS Project (SW 304th St; 6th Ave SW to 1st Ave SW) Rick Perez presented information on this item. There was no discussion or public comment. Chair Kochmar recused herself. Committee forwarded Option #1 as presented. Moved: Duclos Seconded: Ferrell Passed: Unanimously, 2-0, 1 Recusal 10/6/2009 Consent I. Traffic Impact Fee (TIF) Mr. Perez and Don Samdahl from Fehr & Peers presented information on this item. There was one public comment: Garrett Huffman, Master Builders Association, Bellevue – Mr. Huffman, on behalf of the Master Builders Association, supports Option #3. The concern of the Master Builders Association is with the point of collection of impact fees. The goal being to resuscitate the housing market, it may be in a home buyer’s best interest to have the option to pay any impact fees at the “point of sale” rather than have their purchase price reflect the impact fee from the time of the permit. Mr. Huffman also shared that the City of Sammamish has adopted a similar ordinance and it appears to be working out well. Mr. Huffman urged the Committee to recommend Option #3. 10/6/2009 Ordinance 9/01/2009 Ordinance Land Use/Transportation Committee Page 5 September 14, 2009 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2009\09-14-09-Minutes.doc Committee Member Duclos also supports Option #3 and recommends amending the option to replace “certificate of occupancy” with “point of sale”. Committee forwarded Option #3 as modified to substitute “certificate of occupancy” with “point of sale”. Moved: Duclos Seconded: Ferrell Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 Amendments to Federal Way Revised Code (FWRC) Title 19.15.045 “Completeness of applications” regarding vesting for use process applications. Committee forwarded Option #1 as amended to include the proposed text amendment to 19.15.045. Moved: Duclos Seconded: Ferrell Passed: Unanimously, 3-0 4. OTHER 5. FUTURE MEETING Given the cancellation of the August 17th meeting and September 7th being Labor Day, provided enough interest/agenda items, a LUTC meeting may be added on Monday, September 14, 2009 at 5:30 PM in City Council Chambers. More information will follow. The next regular LUTC meeting will be Monday, September 21, 2009, at 5:30 PM in City Council Chambers. 6. ADJOURN The meeting adjourned at 5:556:49 PM. Attest: Darlene LeMaster, Administrative Assistant II COMMITTEE APPROVAL: Linda Kochmar, Chair Jim Ferrell, Member Dini Duclos, Member