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LUTC MINS 04-04-2005G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2005\04-04-05 LUTC Minutes Revised.doc City of Federal Way City Council Land Use/Transportation Committee April 4, 2005 City Hall 5:30 pm Council Chambers MEETING MINUTES In attendance: Committee Members Jack Dovey, Chair, and Council Members Michael Park and Eric Faison; Deputy Mayor Linda Kochmar; Council Member Jeanne Burbidge and Jim Ferrell; Public Works Director Cary Roe; City Attorney Pat Richardson; and Administrative Assistant E. Tina Piety. 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Dovey called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. 2. RECESS – Field trip to the site. Mr. Roe gave the Committee an overview of his memo and explained four issues staff feels the Committee should consider during the field trip and during their deliberations, which are to be held once they return. 3. RESUME – The meeting reconvened at 6:21 p.m. 4. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES The minutes of March 21, 2005, were approved. 5. PUBLIC COMMENT None 6. BUSINESS ITEMS A. Lloyd Request for Amending Designated Vehicle Routes (376th/373rd) – King County closed this route to trucks before the City incorporated. The City does not know why they closed the route to trucks. Before that time, Lloyd Enterprises had used this route to travel to jobs to the south. Currently, their trucks must travel north and then south, which adds some 45 – 60 minutes to the trip and adversely affects their ability to effectively bid on jobs to the south. Mr. Couper, from Lloyd Enterprises, came to the front to answer the Committee’s questions. Bob Couper – In response to the Committee’s questions, he commented that the total number of truck trips from the gravel pit is 60 – 100 per day. When they were competitive to the south, some 20 – 30 percent of these trips used the route under discussion. The pit is open from 6:30 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., but for the most part, trucks are traveling in and out of the pit between 7:00 a.m. and 2:30/3:00 p.m. They want to avoid rush hour traffic. He stated they feel they can increase the tax base. They lost 15 – 20 percent of their capacity and approximately 200 jobs when they lost the southern route. The Committee discussed the staff’s four areas of concern. 1. Hylebos Creek bridge capacity. Due to the I-5 HOV project, Hylebos Creek and the bridge may be moved further to the east. If this is done, the new bridge would be built to handle the trucks. A bridge capacity evaluation could be done in 30 to 60 days, possibly sooner. Land Use/Transportation Committee Page 2 April 4, 2005 G:\LUTC\LUTC Agendas and Summaries 2005\04-04-05 LUTC Minutes Revised.doc 2. Roadway pavement section evaluation. The Federal Way section of this route was paved about two years ago. Mr. Roe commented that while the Federal Way pavement is in good shape, it is unknown what the road bed beneath the pavement is like and how it would handle the trucks. A pavement evaluation could also take 30 to 60 days. 3. Potential intersection improvements. Mr. Roe feels the sight distance and turning radius at the Milton Road and South 376th Street intersection is probably fine, an analysis should be done to be sure. The vegetation at the 8th Avenue South and South 373rd intersection is a significant problem. Mr. Roe commented that regardless of the outcome of this meeting, he will probably ask the property owners to trim the vegetation themselves, or allow the City to use City equipment to trim the vegetation. He commented that an analysis should also be done on the turning radius at this intersection. The Committee discussed the suggested Traffic Signal Warrant Analysis for South 373rd Street and Pacific Highway South. When asked if the state would pay for the light (considering that Pacific Highway South is a state road), Mr. Roe replied that they might only if the Traffic Signal Warrant Analysis showed a need for a signal. Mr. Couper commented that their trucks traveled that intersection before the restriction with no problems. 4. Possible neighbor/public opposition. The Committee agreed that if this proposal goes forward, a neighborhood meeting should be held. Council Member Ferrell suggested that a first step should be to find out why King County closed the route to trucks. The Committee expressed concern with the speed of the trucks. Mr. Couper replied that are very careful with their speed. They would probably travel the route in question at about 20 mph. Mr. Couper asked the Committee if the trucks could be allowed to use this route on the return trip. The trucks would be empty. Joshua Ubanks – He commented that the City should review the history of why the road was closed before spending money on the bridge analysis. It was moved to direct staff to research the King County history and if no significant reason is found for the restriction, proceed concurrently with the bridge analysis and roadway evaluation. The motion died for the lack of a second. It was m/s/c to direct staff to request from Lloyd Enterprises, Inc. the necessary funds to conduct the Hylebos Creek bridge capacity analysis and roadway pavement evaluation, so the City can comprehensively evaluate the request and identify any required improvements; with the understanding that staff will research the King County history and speed limits. 5. FUTURE MEETINGS The next scheduled meeting will be April 18, 2005. 6. ADJOURN The meeting adjourned at 6:56 p.m.